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Bringing Back Weaknesses and Strengths?
« on: October 22, 2016, 10:04:02 PM »
So I have realized through reviewing the a few  profiles I seem to find one area that seems to lack more than any other sections on character sheets (not for all characters just for some). The combat section. This section gives us an insight on what a character can and cannot do, what they are strong at and what can bring them down in a fight. Pretty integral when we think about how many threads are dictated by combat. When people leave their combat sections very vague and ambiguous it allows them to pull off questionable things that we wouldn't have approved in the first place.

Of course this ruins the entire experience for everyone. But there was a way this was avoided in the past. The strength and weaknesses sections of a profile allows me (im not going to speak for all reviewers) to quickly asses the strengths and weaknesses of characters to see if they balance each other out. I don't exactly remember why the two were removed in the first place but I would be interested in knowing if anybody would find that having those two sections back would be useful when viewing profiles. Maybe a spoiler TLDR that let people know what the character can and cannot do?

So are you guys for having strength and weaknesses categories returning? Maybe under a spoiler or a different name? Maybe you hate the idea all together and like the vague generalized way we do it now.
Lemme know what you think.

And hey If a mod stumbles across this it would be cool to know why we got rid of it in the first place.
Griz Blancard 1st Year Student at Beacon"I need a nap"
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Re: Bringing Back Weaknesses and Strengths?
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2016, 10:14:56 PM »
We replaced it with combat behavior. Strengths and Weaknesses are supposed to be implied within the section, hence the behavior part of the title.
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Re: Bringing Back Weaknesses and Strengths?
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2016, 10:21:59 PM »
Ok that makes sense but I do see a lot of profiles where the strengths are extremely well developed while the weaknesses are left to be summed up in less than two lines. Wouldn't bringing it back balance that a little more?
Griz Blancard 1st Year Student at Beacon"I need a nap"
Dorothy Burgundy 3rd Year Shade, Elite Scavenger "Treasure is everywhere, you just need to know where to look!"
Xavier Cendres2nd year Beacon "Everything can be solved with a wrench, screwdriver, and a whole lot of time"

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Re: Bringing Back Weaknesses and Strengths?
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2016, 10:28:15 PM »
Then you tell them to add more.
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Fourth Year: Noir - "To see nothing, is to truly see the world."

Head of White Fang Investigation Team: Eklipsei Gray - "I bring justice to the darkness in this kingdom."


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Re: Bringing Back Weaknesses and Strengths?
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2016, 10:35:08 PM »
I'm not saying its a needed feature. I was just wondering if other people would find it useful when looking at profiles. Interested in their opinions y'know?

Thanks for telling me why it was removed though!
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Re: Bringing Back Weaknesses and Strengths?
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2016, 10:40:02 PM »
No problem.
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F̷̢͕͍̦̥̯̻̪̙ị̯̲̺̱r͏̻͉s̗t̛̻̼̣̞͔̤ ̸͘҉̲̠̖̭͕Y͓̣̣̲e̬͖̮̠͎̙̗͚a͙r̴̝͉̫͜,̺̣̕ ͔͎̰̯͓Ṭ̠̥͢͠ͅe̫͖̲̹̻̙͕͔͢a̺̫̼̝͔̕͠ḿ͚͚̙̪̻̗͚̝ͅ ̧͉̻͖̗̮̼͈͎̀͝Z͕͍̫C̵͈͈̖̯͎̖F̧̘̭͈͚̜R͈͚͖̣̝͔̰̘͈:͎̫̟̩̬̫̹ ̷̠̭͈̘͖͚F̠̟͈̜͍̫̠e͖͓͉͍͞n̵̰̗̘͈̹͞i̙̭̱̻x̵̦͠ ̷̙͈͈̠͎͉̮̺C̵͇̪̠e͕̟̟̙̻r̰̮̟͓̜̪̩u̯̞͉̥ͅl̺̪̝̣͢ę̥̲̹̹̜̼̳̘a͈̭͎͘͝ǹ̸̻͉̳͍͉̘̝ ̴̝̣̼͇̀̕ͅ-̡̼͚̪̱̻̪̙̠ ̖̬̠̠̪͎́"̸̜̙̣̠͚̻̲Ṣ̢̰͎̟͖̥̤ͅt̛̻̘̯̝͇ͅà҉̤͉͖ņ̯̘͚̮d̷͙̭͇̹ ̲̳̗̞͠͡b̞̣̲̪̳̖̯̭͡è̷̳̰̻̤̖͈͓̠h̶͕̦̭͚͎̠͎͜i̶̫͎͜n̵͙̙̹̳d̹ ̢̙̰̙̰́m̢̖̼̺̦͉͇̫̣͎e̼̼̞ͅ,̲͇͍̫̱͜ ́͏̲̯̳͎ͅI͈̣̰͙̝͈͚͢͞ ̛͙͙̤͚̬͜w̧͓̩̙͇͝į̭̦̹̜ͅĺ̙l̺͕̖̻̳̭̙͘ ̵̪̝̜͜p̛͉̺̻͢r̮̙̗͕̞̬o̡͝҉̞͉̖̼̪̪t͖͕ȩ̸̩̳c̹̯̘͓t̙̤̠͎͖̦̯͠ ͇̗͕͉̥y̵̷̮͙̮̭͙̱̪̝ͅo̶͉͈͎͓̮͇͈͍̘u̘͙̣͘͘.̲̖̫̬̦̤̤̀͝ͅ"҉̼̬͕͞

Fourth Year: Noir - "To see nothing, is to truly see the world."

Head of White Fang Investigation Team: Eklipsei Gray - "I bring justice to the darkness in this kingdom."


Atlas: ShowHide
Third Year Vigilante: Sovereign LeBlanc - "For my next trick, I'll make your Lien disappear!"

Professor of Survival Training, Combat Tactics, and Miscellaneous Studies: Hunter d'Azur - "Alright kids, today's lesson is hide-and-seek. Try your best to hide!"


Mistral: ShowHide
Fourth Year, Team CNBR: Arian Reaper - "In battle, only skill matters."

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Re: Bringing Back Weaknesses and Strengths?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2016, 04:12:15 PM »
If I recall the discussions correctly, we removed the Strengths and Weaknesses portion because it was cheapening the profile as a whole. People would basically skip to Semblance, then that area for the relevant meta-gaming, then go on with role-playing. No attention was given to other sections of peoples work, so the system was changed around to get people to read into profiles more.